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Trust Elonka on this one.

I would have to agree with you. But it is repeatable.

You might be right about this. But I believe it says IF A KEY TO KRYPTOS IS WHAT U SEK X IN A COURTYARD YOU WILL HAVE TO DIG TO FIND A GOLD RING I HID. Also I believe he used three methods, two layers of encryption from the reference in k3. Transposition and substitution, but he set it up like scrabble. You can use one letter to make two words. I am double checking to make sure it doesn't say IN THE CIA COURTYARD. I will update you, but if I am right then i have found more than everyone and I did it with my cracker jackbox decoder ring lol. I'm only kidding about the cracker jackbox ring part.

In my theory it says IF A KEY TO KRYPTOS IS WHAT U SEK X IN THE CIA COURTYARD YOU WILL HAVE TO DIG X TO FIND A GOLD RING I HID. He did use scrabble, but not the way you might believe. Just the rules, not the board.

If he was truly using Scrabble Rules, Then he loses for not knowing how to spell...

ALL IN MY ENTIRE 11 YEAR OLD LIFE IVE BEEN TRYING TO SOLVE KRYPTOS BUT YOU MY FRIEND IS CORRECT THIS HAS TO BE THE MESSAGE ED SCHIEDT SAID SO HIMSELF THAT THE MESSAGE WAS NOT ONLY DISGUISED IN CODE BUT ALSO AS STEGANOGRAPHY.

an abscissa would be only the first number in an order pair. maybe "38" is the only useful number in the supposed "GPS coordinates".

Monk's Mound (MM)Cahokia Mounds has a latitude of 38. In "Layer Two"(Terrace II) There has been a mysterious large amount of stone discovered that's buried beneath it. Erecting huge earthen mounds is a way to manipulate the earth's electromagnetic field.

I have gotten a lot farther since my last posting. Scrabble seemed pretty cool, but it is not used just yet. The methods for k4 are four, substitution, transposition, cesarian shifts, ottendorf ciphers. Purposeful misspellings and stenography play a major role also. Here is my outcome...WANT Z CODE KEY FOR KS TUET ZOU KANT SEA ? TO Z CIA KQURTYARD FTN JOU MUST GO TO FINE U GD OBJ I HABE HIDEEN INSIVE X GO TO LV JS. Now my solution is time stamped. I know why these misspellings are correct. I have found the second layer. I know why the ? mark belongs in k4 and the Q belongs in k3, easy 97 characters is one answer. A computer character is a ?. If he said 97 letters then that would have ended that possibility. There are two other reasons the Q belongs in k3 which you may figure out yourself. Purposeful misspellings that seem to not have a purpose, they are misspelled so the letters can be used in the ottendorf ciphers. I know what the object is, it was easier than you think to get it past the security at the CIA and stay hidden. I have my theory mostly completed, hopefully when its done and if i have correctly deciphered the messages, you may see it soon. The second layer is pretty cool lol.

Correction WENT Z CODE KEY FOUR KS TUET ZOU KANT SEA ? TO Z CIA KQURTWARD FTN JOU MUS GO TO PINE U GD OBJ I HABE HIDEEN INSIVE X GO TO LV JS. I know for sure the ? mark belongs in k4. If I had the financial resources to buy a few things to finish this code, it would almost be done by now. I am roughly in to the 88th page of my theory and I have figured out how to verify it, It will just have to wait until I get the money I need for it. I also know that a question mark is not just a computer character before people start saying things about that part of my previous comments.

Why so many repeating pairs( OO BB QQ SS TT ZZ TT NN UU AA)?

Please remove all my posts from this site. I do not want them up here any more. I would appreciate your help with this. I will check back in a week. If you won't help or don't use this site, I will try to get google and other search engines to delete this page from their searches. The info I posted is incorrect, I dont want it out there anymore, so mr Belcher...If you can help...that would be really great.

THE Answer Lies Within

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I will make sure and have your comments deleted... No problem...

I have a theory, I'm not very good at code, but I read what has been solved so far. "BETWEEN SUBTLE SHADING AND THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT LIES THE NUANCE OF IQLUSION" and then the apparent coordinates in the second part, I think maybe you need to be standing at a certain spot in front of it, at a certain time, to see the shadow it cast on the ground, and solve those characters. I think maybe something isn't in the ground, but ON the ground, and only during a specific time of day.

I think part four has to do with Hitler's fascination with Nefertiti and the city of Berlin.

the coordinates are to a courtyard in the cia

I'm only 13 but how did you split the letters up

Hello from Spain

+ I suggest a solution to KRIPTOS K4

+ IF the sculptor of Kryptos Mr. Sanborn has provided The New York Times with the answers to six letters in the sculpture’s final passage. The characters that are the 64th through 69th in the final series on the sculpture read NYPVTT. When deciphered, they read BERLIN
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/21/us/21code.html?ref=us

+ THEN in my humble opinion the best solution is this:
"PEOPLE TO CREATE A SAFER, FREER WORLD AND SURELY THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE THAN BERLIN THE MEETING PLACE OF EAST AND WEST"

+ BECAUSE

1_is a fragment of a speech of Ronald reagan in front of Berlin Wall and complies with the requirements explained by the sculptor.
—Ronald Reagan, address at the Brandenburg Gate, June 12, 1987.
LOOK http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/re ... r-down.htm

He said:
“Today, thus, represents a moment of hope …….PEOPLE TO CREATE A SAFER, FREER WORLD AND SURELY THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE THAN BERLIN THE MEETING PLACE OF EAST AND WEST, to make a start.”


2_a question needs an answer:

SO, if K 3 has a question: ” …… can you see anythyngq?“. (The account of Howard Carter, the renowned Egyptologist, as he opened King Tut’s tomb. --and breaking the WALL--)

THEN … K 4 has an beatiful answer “ People to create a safer, freer world ……..” (a fragment of a speech of Ronald reagan in front of Berlin Wall)


3_is a beautiful and elegant solution, is what wanted the CIA: The Central Intelligence Agency planned the expansion known as the New Headquarters Building in the 1980s and asked artists to submit proposals to create a work of art for the courtyard. The broad principles it provided for the $250,000 commission included the notion that it should “engender feelings of well-being, hope.”

FINALLY
+ I do not know the name of the encryption system, but this solution complies with the requirements and is lovely.

Goodbye.

"NYPVTT" is not "BERLIN". Here is my deciphered Kryptos 4 Message. It reads, "NEAR ROUND DINNER BELL IN BETWEEN NORTHWEST BARRACKS ROW ALL INSIDE NSA LIMITS AND ALL VANN KNOWS ABOUT WE KNOW TOO CROSS ASKEW NORTHWEST CROSS AND YOU SALUT A ROSE IN VALOR".
Rick A. Roberts

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